farley2k wrote: »
Thought about Dern's move
If a ship going to light speed can destroy a ship like that why don't they have small unmanned ships that they can launch at huge capital ships? They could even launch them from far away so they couldn't be shot down. Maybe I am missing something?
Jimmy the Fish wrote: »
I think, really, a lot of a fans have a highly romanticized attitude of what Star Wars is to them which sets expectations unrealistically high.
Blackjack wrote: »
Quiz: Which Star Wars the Last Jedi Character Are You?
I was a bit surprised by my result....
I'm Kylo Ren????
December 16 at 11:11am ·
This EMPIRE STRIKES BACK movie doesn’t make any sense at all. So they blow up the Death Star but the Empire’s just like NOT AFFECTED? They can still show up anywhere and do anything? Glad so many rebel pilots sacrificed themselves in A NEW HOPE, I guess. Plus uuuhhhh I don’t think humans can survive in the arctic overnight with just a coat or some animal intestines. It’s called Biology 101. And since when can smugglers use lightsabers?? Oh and I guess now we have ghosts in this universe too. Ugh. To make no mention of the tiny insane frog person who’s apparently the galaxy’s GREATEST JEDI MASTER?! Gimme a break. And while Luke is training, Han and Leia (who have NO IMPACT on the overall plot) get captured in like two seconds, so when Luke goes to rescue them, he’s done his massive grand Jedi training in, what, forty-eight hours?! Makes no sense. And don’t even get me started on this “I am your father” horseshit. A whole entire galaxy and Vader JUST HAPPENED to be passing over his freaking ESTRANGED SON’S home planet when he lost the Death Star plans one movie earlier??? SMH. And OHMYGOD the ultimate cheap-ass-machina when Leia just kinda INTUITS they should turn around and go pick up dangling Luke. The franchise has officially jumped the shark. Hoping Marquand can turn it around for Episode VI, but I’m not holding my breath.
(In unrelated news, “The Last Jedi” is the best Star Wars film in over thirty years.)
Jimmy the Fish wrote: »
There is so much that is wrong in that guy's over the top flaming but this line in the article proves my point:
"But as a longtime fan of the franchise myself, I’m flummoxed as to how Johnson, a self-professed fan of Star Wars, apparently took such delight in quite literally burning the hero’s history down to the ground while metaphorically slapping the fandom in the face in the process."
This whole statement is completely based on his fanboy nostalgia love of the original trilogy. How dare Rian Johnson shit all over his childhood in such a mean spirited manner. Give me a break. These are the same fools who think Force Awakens is just a remake of A New Hope. There is NOTHING these new movies will do that will make any of them happy because they will never conform 100% to what their idea of Star Wars is or should be. So all they are left with is nitpicking the new films to a ridiculous level and getting all emo-mad that the Disney machine hates them. Before the Last Jedi came out, I'd read all their fanboy ideas of who Snoke is, who Rey's parents are, and what Luke has been doing since Return of the Jedi. The only ones who care about those lame fanboy theories are the delusional fanboys themselves. All this talk about Darth Plagieous (or however the hell it's spelled) being Snoke reincarnated. Rey being Luke or Obi-Wan's hidden love child. Come on, that stuff is so contrived it makes Star Wars feel like some incestuous family in-fight.
I'm so done with Star Wars fandom. Rian Johnson did something brave, and yes, controversial but he's created a completely open canvas for JJ Abrams to pretty much take Rey vs Kylo Ren in any direction he wants. That to me is really exciting because episode 9 will be/should be a completely new experience.
The other really exciting thing to me is that since Rian Johnson is now in charge of the next trilogy of movies, he can create all new characters and worlds without being shackled by the old legacy of Luke/Leia/Han and even Rey/Kylo Ren.
Purge wrote: »
If you had only ever watched Episode 7 and 8, would this be an important, or even good, film?
Jimmy the Fish wrote: »
Okay, if we're going to go down this rabbit hole:
That being said, there ARE problems with Last Jedi. WWII style bombing runs, Leia's out of nowhere force power, the entire casino planet section, the mystery of why Holdo had to keep her grand plan a secret from Poe, are all pretty stupid.
Blackjack wrote: »
The thing about the Leia Thing....
I can appreciate "variants" of Force abilities but afik the only glimpses she'd ever shown in Empire, ROTJ and Force Awakens was a very mild "mind link" with Luke or sense something had gone wrong in Force Awakens. It's a pretty big leap from that to "now I can breathe and thaw my frozen body in space and then fly a great distance in space like I have jet boots on."
Star Wars in terms of what's realistic or logistical has always been inherently ludicrous, I know; it's inspired by Flash Gordon serials, not NASA simulators. I just found it a jarring jump in her abilities with no clue ever given she'd be able to even know to do something like that.
I wish Carrie had gotten to do more in these last two movies of hers. I realize she wasn't a youngster anymore. Maybe asking her to run around firing blasters, or riding around on a speeder, or whatever wasn't something she was up to. I just feel like other than "Space Ghost" sequence she generally wasn't allowed to do much more than be a talking head... and oh yeah shoot Poe, which was quite baffling at teh time.
And this was after she'd been asked to lose weight and use a fitness trainer for Awakens (which she complained about a lot in interviews). If she was being asked to do that, I wish she'd gotten to be a bit more active of a character in her finale performances.
Oh on the bombers. Maybe some day Johnson will answer the reasoning/background on those. I almost wonder if they're riffing on the U.S. Navy's initial terrible Devastator torpedo-bombers of early WWII. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_TBD_Devastator These were by WWII slow, not maneuverable, and sitting ducks for Japanese fighters. But that's what they had in early battles, so they just took their lumps, and a lot of young USN pilots/tail gunners died in the process.
I might've found in TLJ more sensible some sort of large ship with multiple proton torpedo launchers. Or they could've been such torpedoes modified to carry multiple fragment bombs (as in the movie), that blow up in clusters when approaching the target. See? They should've hired me for ordinance suggestions.
I loved the movie generally, and hope to see it a couple more times maybe.
rittchard wrote: »
To me it was no less "baffling" than Rey beating Kylo in her first real battle, didn't she seem to level up force-wise out of the blue?
But Leia's power is/was even more understandable to me, since just like any typical mutant when they first discover their powers, they often do it under extreme duress and do something pretty incredible. It's like the stress/strain jumpstarts their powers beyond what they would even be able to normally do consciously, because their subconscious/willpower takes them to a different level. I don't think we were meant to believe she was practicing and knowingly capable of this specific capability, I think it was something that happened spontaneously as self preservation (see Phoenix and/or other assorted mutant comics as a reference).
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